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Yes, a Tudor is certainly a luxury watch.

Is Tudor a luxury watch?

Tudor is still owned by Rolex although they are made in different factories and no longer share components.

Is Tudor still made by Rolex?

Rolex was founded first in 1905, followed by Tudor in 1946.

What came first Tudor or Rolex?

When Hans Wilsdorf founded Montres Tudor SA in 1946, he named it after his fascination with the history of Tudor England.

Why are Tudor watches called Tudor?

Tudor are different to Rolex and offer a more daring design at a lower price point. While the Rolex watch may be slightly more refined, the Tudor brings different styling options and great value for money.

Are Tudor as good as Rolex?

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This is a common question when two people are discussing the purchase of a collectible watch:

Q: “Does this vintage watch have the correct box or is that the correct box for the watch?”

The perhaps impolite but nevertheless accurate response should be :

A: “I’m afraid you’re not asking the correct question and the proper question here is – Could this be the correct box for the watch?”

Then ...

The fundamental mistake that we make when considering the boxes and ephemera of vintage watches is to apply today’s quality service standards to watch companies of the 1950s, 60s and 70s.

Nowadays Rolex, Tudor, (TAG) Heuer et cetera are very efficient when it comes to helping their dealers to supply the correct boxes and ephemera with their watches. Unfortunately, forty plus years ago they really weren’t very good at all and would ship the watches separately from boxes, tags, manuals et cetera. This meant that it was the responsibility of the retailer to put the correct package together for the customer and guess what? They weren’t very good at it either.

Picture the scene: it’s January 1972 and a customer has walked into a watch shop to buy a Rolex Submariner – a significant purchase at £270. The jeweller has had this watch in stock for a year and because it took a year from manufacture to get to the jeweller, it’s actually a late 1969 watch.

When the long-haired, flared trouser bedecked salesman brought out the white and green box that was supplied with the watch, his customer was disappointed. He had seen the nice brown one with the seahorse on it in the window and asked if he could have one of those instead please? This man was spending £270 on a watch and the salesman needed to make him happy so of course, he did what the customer asked.

The last thing that the salesman was thinking was that in 40 years time, this watch would be worth £10,000 and having the correct box would matter – and to some, I mean really matter.

Now ...


So let’s fast forward those 40 years to a time when a vintage Rolex enthusiast is ready to invest the price of a small car in owning his grail watch, a ‘Red’ Submariner – maybe even a birth year one.

The first question the customer is going to ask is “what year is this watch ” is it 1969 as the serial number suggests or a 1972 as the papers suggest?

The second question the purchaser will ask is are the boxes and ephemera correct? As we know the full story of this particular ‘Red’, you and I are confident that this Full Set is exactly as it was when it left the store. However, our potential purchaser’s eyebrows may have cause to raise.

Surely it can’t be right that a 1969 watch should come in a Seahorse box which wasn’t even released until two years later? But we know differently…

In Conclusion

The moral of this story is that not only is this area of watch purchase a minefield, but also that there are very few absolute certainties and many possibilities.

Some things are clearly impossible and not correct. A watch with a 1975 serial number and papers dated 1973 would be wrong, as would a 1975 watch on a 1985 bracelet, but generally speaking if the differential is up to 2 or 3 years either way with bracelets, papers and ephemera then it’s absolutely fine.

So next time you’re looking at a watch like this, rather than asking “does this vintage watch have the correct box?” ask could this be the correct box for the watch. It will help you appreciate and understand the many possibilities and it may stop you from passing up a fantastic opportunity for the wrong reason.

And finally ...

Oh and one final thing, you need to trust the person that you’re buying from.

If you’re considering spending thousands of pounds on a vintage watch from someone who’s opinion and honesty you doubt, then you should really consider buying one elsewhere.

If you would like support or guidance on any of the issues raised in this article then please email us through the website. You might also find our blog – <a href="https://www.oakleighwatches.co.uk/insights/what-do-we-mean-by-a-full-set">What do we mean by a Full Set</a>, useful reading.

“Does this vintage watch have the correct box?”

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This Tudor Submariner is an absolute vintage beauty.
It is in really lovely condition all round condition both inside and out and features the original dial and handset.  The dial is the Metres First, 'Small Shield' Tudor dial correct for the watch and everything is clean and bright with no hint of patina.
The bezel and insert are also outstanding both in the sharpness of the stainless steel and the perfection of the aluminium and everything appears lightly worn and unpolished
The caseback is still very clearly engraved with the legend "Original Oyster case by Rolex Geneva".
The bracelet is the original one in great condition that keeps this beautiful watch secure and comfortable on the wrist.
This is a really Full Set with the correct boxes, the papers, the booklets and tags and even the Tudor Anchor.
Serviced by Tudor in 2010 and just tested, it is running smoothly within COSC spec and everything inside is just as good as the outside of the watch.
The Tudor service papers are included.
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For more Tudor Watches visit our <a href="https://www.oakleighwatches.co.uk/brand/pre-owned-tudor-watches">Tudor </a>Brand page.
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Tudor Submariner

This Tudor Submariner is a vintage beauty in lovely condition all round condition both inside and out and features the original dial and handset. A Full Set

Tudor Submariner | 1995 | Full Set

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